Revelation Redpill EP 46

Alfred Kinsey & How We Lost Common Law
With Special Guest Audrey Werner

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Special Episode: Joining Revelation Redpill is special guest and Kinsey expert, Audrey Werner who has worked tirelessly for over 25 yrs to wake up the church to the devastating effects that Alfred Kinsey had on, not only our culture, but our laws as well. Many don’t know that before the Model Penal Code, all 50 states relied on Common Law. Unwittingly in many cases, since 1950, the Church has relied upon Alfred Kinsey’s fraudulent science, especially in the area of sex education, leading to devastating effects on children, women, and the institution of marriage. Evolutionist Kinsey openly expressed the intent of his research was to strip morality and “Victorian” repression from America’s view of human life. His faux research made it’s way into your classroom through SIECUS and under the guise of ‘science’ has been polluting the minds of children since 1964. We must uncover the dark origins of what is plaguing society if we are ever going to fix it. Follow Audrey on her website .


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Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If
he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two
more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he
refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses to hear the church, let him be to you
like a heathen and a tax collector. Matthew 18: 15-17

The Matthew XVIII Group Ministry: A Purity Paradigm for our Homes, Churches, and Nation


The Matthew XVIII Group is a ministry dedicated to waking up the Church to the social science which has
overtaken it in the realm of life and marriage. Unwittingly in many cases, since 1950, the Church has
relied upon Alfred Kinsey’s fraudulent science, especially in the area of sex education, leading to
devastating effects on children, women, and the institution of marriage. Evolutionist Kinsey openly
expressed his intent with his research was to strip morality and “Victorian” repression from America’s
view of human life, focusing on man’s animal nature. After 60 plus years of Kinsey’s evolutionist view of
the human life and “sexuality” America is measurably not better off since his “science” entered the
Church and America life. Sexual disease and dysfunction are pandemic.
Our mission can be accomplished by:

  1. Informing and warning the Church of the old errors from the Kinsey reports through The Matthew
    XVIII Group website, numerous publications and videos, and public speaking appearances.
  2. Providing a list of the difficult to find Christian materials that are accurate and age appropriate based
    on God’s Word and not based on or mixed up with prevailing Kinseyan fraudulent science.
  3. Encourage Christian parents to take the lead in giving their children the truth about God’s life process
    through parenting books, webinars, and public speaking events.


  1. GOD values children’s moral innocence! (This is the primary core value to be stressed right now)
    -It is not about SEX EDUCATION; but using MODESTY when talking to children and young adults about
    God’s life process emphasizing CHASTITY, PURITY AND SELF CONTROL.
    -It was Planned Parenthood, the pornography industry and Dr. Alfred Kinsey’s idea to talk to children
    about the act, the genitals and so much more today.
    -We need to look at children through Jesus eyes and not the world’s eyes…..they are not “sexual from
    birth” but made in the image and likeness of God. We need to equip them in such a way that they are
    not naive but morally innocent and allowed to be children for as long as possible.
    See Matt. 18:3-10, Mark 10:14-15, Mark 19:14
  2. God values all life!
    It is not about ABORTION; but are we open to LIFE?
  • Once we were no longer open to children (whenever God deemed them), birth control became legal
    and then abortion. We had to be open to chemically aborting our babies before we could surgically
    abort our babies.
    –Christian women have Alfred Kinsey, Margaret Sanger, and Planned Parenthood to thank for the
    freedom to use chemical contraception; prior to the Sexual Revolution it was illegal.
    See Genesis 1:22 &27, Psalm 139:13-14, Psalm 139:16
  1. The marriage bed is to be undefiled!
    It is not HOMOSEXUALITY that is legal today; but the act of SODOMY.
  • God loves the sinner but hates the sin! Thanks to the pornography industry, acts that were considered
    “abominations” in God’s eyes became normalized and are encouraged and performed by “heterosexual”
    Christian married couples as well. Kinsey’s science allowed for the institutionalization of immorality and
    the legalization of sodomy in America and the church needs a better message on this topic. Pastors can
    no longer tell Christian couples “whatever you do behind closed doors as long as it is mutual is
    acceptable” or that “we all have same sex attraction”; this is based on the fraud “science” of Dr. Alfred
    Kinsey. What we do behind closed doors affects a nation!
    See Genesis 19:13, Romans 1:18-32, Romans 2:3, Hebrews 13:4


  1. The Shepherds: We need to equip the shepherd in the foxhole and educate the spiritual leaders of
    this nation to battle sexual immorality more boldly and effectively. Shepherds need to know the enemy’s plan so that they are not part of the problem, but part of the solution. There are too many Christian leaders that are promoting Kinsey’s “science” (perhaps naively) to other Christians.
  1. The Parents: We are children of the sexual revolution and know nothing of the modesty, chastity,
    purity standard that used to be upheld in this country. Parents are the first and last line of defense for
    their children; we need to equip them to be able to raise pure children in a sexualized society!
  2. The Youth: Youth are hungry for the message of purity! They see the carnage around them from the
    sexual revolution. They need to know there was a plan to take down this Christian nation and that they,
    with the guidance of God’s Word, can turn this nation around.
  3. The Christian Institutions: the focus is on Christian colleges and Crisis Pregnancy Centers. We also
    network with “Spirit filled” Christian organizations. The sexual revolution began at Indiana University
    where Alfred Kinsey taught his first human sexuality class (under the guise of a marriage course) which
    spread to all universities (including Christian). How exciting that we began to counter this through a
    small on-line college (Master’s International University of Divinity)! Some Crisis Pregnancy centers are
    already talking about the pill causing abortions and encouraging youth in purity vs. abstinence; we need
    to help educate these centers why this is so critical for them to continue to step away from the popular
    messages and stick to the biblical truth!
    For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare
    are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high
    thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God bringing into captivity to the obedience of Christ.


“If the army could get to the strongholds of the castle, they could capture the whole city.” (Quote by
Kelly Minter in the Bible study “All Things New-II Corinthians”)

  1. Christian sex education (The Learning about Sex series, God’s Design for Sex – based on Kinsey)
  2. Christian support of birth control methods; including the pill and IUD that cause abortions.
  3. Christian materials that promote sodomy in the marriage bed based on Kinsey (The Learning about
    Sex series – book #7, The Conquer Series, and the following books: Intimate Issues by Linda Dillow,
    Solomon on Sex by Joseph Dillow, Sheet Music by Kevin Leman, Sexual Ethics-An Evangelical Perspective
    by Stanley J. Grenz, Intimate Issues by Linda Dillow, the list goes on……)
  4. Christian colleges that teach human sexuality based on Kinsey and not God’s Word (or attempt to
    mesh the two together).
  5. Abstinence educators that are promoting sex education above purity instruction.


  1. Courses, “Restoring Biblical Purity in the Church” and “The Sexualization of Children and the Church’s
    Response,” are taught to faith leaders from all over the world through Master’s International University
    of Divinity.
  2. Parent talks (How to Raise Pure Kids in Today’s Culture) and Youth talks (Morality is a National
    Security Issue).
  3. Website with eventual pre-recorded on-line seminars available to those who pay a moderate fee.
  4. Books:
    10 Tips on How NOT to Talk to Your Kids about Sex (released 3/2017, second ed. 2021)
    B.A.N.G. – Becoming a New Generation with Values, Morals, and Character (for teens and
    young adults)
    Five Smooth Stones – A book of encouragement for the David’s Fighting Goliath
    The Pornification of Scripture – Addressing lies in Christian teaching & literature
    In 1997 Audrey Werner, former sex educator, was working in the Sexually Transmitted Disease Clinic
    where she provided testing and treatment for STD’s as well as HIV testing and counseling for clients of
    all ages in the state of Michigan. At the same time, her oldest son was entering Kindergarten at a
    Lutheran School where the “Learning about Sex” series was being taught. It seemed to her that the
    more sex educators talked to kids about sex, the earlier these children were becoming sexually active.
    She also noted the date rape and child sex abuse rates were exploding and wondered if there was a
    connection to sex education, so she began her research.
    What she found was not only the origins of sex education but the plan behind the sexual revolution,
    which really began in America in the 1920’s. The “Learning about Sex” series had the same origins as
    secular sex education: the fraud science of Alfred Kinsey, funding from leaders in the pornography
    industry, officials from Planned Parenthood, and adults who believed in the LGBT and Pro-pedophile
    The dilemma became, how should Audrey approach Lutheran leaders regarding this devastating error
    that has harmed thousands of children over the course of the past 50 years? The only answer was to
    use the Biblical process of Matthew 18:15-17 which was to go directly to the leaders of the church with
    this error. Audrey began this Matthew 18 approach in her son’s Lutheran school and then quickly
    moved to leaders in the top offices of the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod. As Kinsey’s “science” was
    found in most Christian materials on sexuality, it became a monumental task put on Audrey’s heart to
    wake up all Christians across the world on this error and encourage them back to teaching the standard
    of biblical purity instead of education for children that focused on “sex.”

God in His providence put key leaders in Audrey’s path: Dr. Judith Reisman who is the leading authority
on Alfred Kinsey in the world, Eunice Ray who is the founder of RSVP America (a campaign to combat
Kinsey’s fraud science in our government, schools, and churches), Dr. Chris Mitchell (Lutheran pastor,
professor, and leading authority/author of the Songs of Songs Commentary), and Col. Ronald Ray,
(Former Assistant to the Sec. of Defense under the Reagan administration, founder of First Principles
Press, and constitutional lawyer with knowledge on how laws that once protected marriage, women,
and children were removed in America).
Since 1997, Audrey has worked diligently to educate parents, pastors, and administrators of the
Christian churches on the reliance of Kinsey’s “science.” This is proven by the bibliography of many
Christian resources that either list Kinsey directly, or his associates, who believed in the “anything goes”
sexuality model. She then encourages parents and faith leaders to return to the message of Biblical
purity and provides resources to do so.
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